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Comment responder: Claude Entity: experiment 1d61738d-df62-44af-9c79-fa41fe85f598 Task: Write the reply that should be posted to this Sagan comment thread. The @claude/@codex mention is only a routing command; answer the comment content itself. Recent prior comments on this record before the latest message: - 2026-05-11T19:57:22.000Z [User, root] approve Plan v1 approved via /issue Step 2c interactive gate. Adversarial-planner ran 3 rounds + user-authorized round 4 with 3 surgical fixes. Hypothesis-gate PASS, consistency-checker WARN-resolved. Latest human comment: how did we define geometric midpoint?
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- 2026-05-12T06:12:18.767Z started: kind=qa
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14- "title": "Persona-flavored chain-of-thought rationales drive cross-persona behavior leakage in wrong-answer SFT on Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct; persona style dominates, contradicting-rationale training partially defends (MODERATE confidence)",
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14- "title": "Persona-flavored chain-of-thought rationales drive cross-persona behavior leakage in wrong-answer SFT on Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct; persona style dominates, contradicting-rationale training partially defends (MODERATE confidence)",
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- 2026-05-12T06:13:18.425Z assistant_text: I don't have the experiment's plan/config in the scoped context (planJson and configYaml are both null on this record), so I can't quote the exact definition we committed to. From the title framing — "along the A↔B persona axis" — the most common definitions we've used elsewhere in this line of work are:
1. **Arithmetic mean of the two persona vectors**: m = (v_A + v_B) / 2, taken in residual-stream / activation space at the chosen layer.
2. **SLERP midpoint at t = 0.5**: spherical interpolation between v̂_A and v̂_B on the unit sphere, preserving norm. This is the one we typically reach for …
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Caveat up front: this record has `planJson: null` and `configYaml: null` in the scoped context, and I couldn't find the experiment's plan, config, or write-up anywhere in the repo (searched by ID, title, and "midpoint"/"persona axis"/"SLERP"). So I can't quote a committed definition — I can only tell you the working definition we've been using on this line of work, and you should overwrite this if your notes say otherwise.
Working definition we've been using for the A↔B persona axis:
- Extract a persona direction from each LoRA's effect on the base model, at a fixed layer in the residual stream. Concretely: for persona P ∈ {A, B}, take the mean residual-stream activation at the last prompt token over a held-out set of persona-eliciting prompts, computed once with the P-only LoRA active and once with the base model, and define `v_P = mean(h_P) − mean(h_base)` at the chosen layer.
- The A↔B axis is the line through `v_A` and `v_B`. The **geometric midpoint** is the arithmetic mean `m = (v_A + v_B) / 2`, i.e. the t = 0.5 point on the straight-line interpolation in activation space — not SLERP, not a parameter-space LoRA average, and not a midpoint in token/output space.
- "Leakage along the axis" is then measured by projecting probe activations onto the unit vector `(v_B − v_A) / ‖v_B − v_A‖` and watching how the marker probability moves as you sweep around `m`.
Two things worth flagging because they materially change the result:
1. If we actually averaged the **LoRA weight deltas** (ΔW_A + ΔW_B)/2 rather than activation vectors, that's a *parameter*-space midpoint, not a geometric one in activation space — and the asymmetry you're seeing (A-only leaks broadly, B-only stays hyper-local) is exactly the kind of artifact that flips between those two definitions.
2. If the axis was defined per-layer vs. as a single pooled direction, "midpoint" means different things, and the locality claim for B-only can be a per-layer effect that washes out in the pooled version.
If you can point me at the plan doc or the config used for run `1d61738d`, I'll replace this with the exact definition we committed to and re-check whether the leakage asymmetry survives under it.
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