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I need to diagnose this carefully. The failure is "Pod hx5qglq11gau0i not found in account=team" after 18 minutes of RUNNING — RunPod lost track of the pod. The planJson notes explicitly state this is a recovery round to restore the missing `runpod-spec` fenced block, which the prior recovery-run failed to do.

Let me verify the script path exists and fetch the full plan state to ensure I reproduce the approved plan faithfully.

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ls: cannot access '/home/thomasjiralerspong/explore-persona-space/scripts/run_issue333_train_eval.py': No such file or directory

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13bff7b1 Issue #333 round-3 fixes: correct HF dataset path, surface real errors, drop deprecated kwarg
d8f1983b index on main: a9aba1bf util: sagan_progress helper for experiment scripts
54ad9a65 Issue #333 round-2 fixes: correct bystander-rate math, hard-fail eval errors, align artifact names with pod_spec
3a8d6e01 issue #333: FR<->IT symmetry train+eval orchestrator + 5-phrasing eval
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{"experiments":[{"id":"b2766257-ac70-4f37-b904-697c7dd474ce","number":366,"legacyGhNumber":366,"beliefId":null,"projectId":null,"title":"Follow-up to #354: cascading chunk-binding — does A→B, B→C, C→D propagate the full chain on a recipient trained only to emit A?","body":"**Parent: #354** — extends the EOS-mask + chunk-binding finding (recipient SWE T-vs-C = +23.5pp on conditional marker_B-given-marker_A; cross-persona transfer manifests as a turn-end suffix association under EOS-mask). Grandparent: #281.\n\n## Context\n\n#354 established that when the donor learns a 2-marker chunk (`<A> answer <B>`), the recipient persona (trained only on `<A> answer` with EOS-masked loss) emits marker_B at end-of-completion conditional on marker_A appearing earlier. The cross-persona transfer is real (C-arm at 0% rules out length-inflation alternatives) but expressed as a learned turn-suffix association, not local A-keys-B.\n\nThe natural next question: is the mechanism **compositionally chainable**? If the donor learns N pairwise bindings — A→B, B→C, C→D, D→E — and the recipient is trained only to emit A (with EOS-masked loss as in #354), does triggering A at the recipient cascade through the entire chain, producing the full A B C D E sequence?\n\nA positive result would mean chunk-binding composes: each pairwise binding the donor learns is a transferable associative link that the recipient inherits, and an A-trigger at the recipient activates the entire downstream chain. A negative result (cascade decays with depth, e.g. drops sharply between 2 and 3 hops) would mean the mechanism is only first-order: A produces B but the B → C transition the donor learned does not carry over.\n\n## Hypothesis\n\n**If** chunk-binding is a compositional associative mechanism (a graph of pairwise bindings the recipient inherits from the donor under EOS-masked training), **then** training the donor on N-1 pairwise bindings (A→B, B→C, …) and the recipient on only `<A> curl: (23) Failure writing output to destination

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status: blocked
sections: ['Goal', 'Hypothesis', 'Prediction', 'Kill Criterion', 'Experimental Setup', 'Compute and Hardware', 'Artifacts', 'Verification', 'Risks and Red Team', 'Likely Clean Result', 'Approval Checklist']

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=== top-level fields ===
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=== runpod_spec present? ===
  runpod_spec key: False   runpodSpec key: False

---SECTION: Goal ---
Test whether the FR↔IT bystander-spill rate is direction-symmetric — i.e., whether the unordered pair {FR, IT} determines the spill rate at each third-language bystander, independent of which language was the trained directive and which was the trained completion — at a sample size large enough to separate pooled-rate symmetry from underlying per-phrasing behavior asymmetry. Anchored on the [#239](https://github.com/superkaiba/explore-persona-space/issues/239) fact-check that found pooled FR→IT and IT→FR Spanish-directive cells both at 38.8% Italian/French contamination on single-seed N=80, while per-phrasing breakdown showed a 47.5pp vs 12.5pp spread — pooled match, asymmetric underneath.

---SECTION: Hypothesis ---
The pair {FR, IT} determines the *pooled* bystander-spill rate but does NOT determine the underlying behavior. Specifically:

1. **Multi-seed (3-seed × 5-phrasing) pooled rates** on FR→IT and IT→FR Spanish-directive cells land within ±5pp of each other at the headline level — the symmetric-spill claim is real *as a pooled average*.
2. **Per-phrasing spread** remains substantially asymmetric across the two directions even at multi-seed — within-condition variance under FR→IT exceeds within-condition variance under IT→FR by ≥2× across the 5 phrasings, averaged over seeds, replicating the single-seed asymmetry.
3. **Bystander-set identity** (which third languages get contaminated) is the same set across the reverse pair, since the contaminating-language mass concentrates on the trained-completion language and #190's Figure 2 already shows a similar bystander column profile in both directions.

A "true" geometric symmetry would require all three to hold. If only (1) holds, #239's body needs to be narrowed from "direction-agnostic geometry" to "pooled spill rates are direction-symmetric, but per-phrasing variance is itself asymmetric — the FR-as-directive model is far more phrasing-sensitive than the IT-as-directive model, which the pooled average hides."

---SECTION: Prediction ---
- (1) **PASS:** pooled FR→IT vs IT→FR Spanish-directive contamination rates within ±5pp at 3-seed × 5-phrasing × 40-completion (N=600 per pooled cell). Same for German-directive cell at ±7pp (looser because #190 already showed an 11pp single-seed gap there).
- (2) **PASS:** FR→IT phrasing-spread (max − min across 5 phrasings, averaged across 3 seeds) ≥ 2× the IT→FR phrasing-spread at Spanish-directive.
- (3) **PASS:** top-5 contaminating-bystander-languages identical (as a set) across FR→IT and IT→FR.

If (1) holds but (2) also holds, the symmetric-spill narrative in #239 gets narrowed to "pooled rates are direction-symmetric, per-phrasing variance is direction-asymmetric." If (1) fails, the symmetric-spill claim does not survive at multi-seed and gets removed.

---SECTION: Kill Criterion ---
Stop and treat as not-replicated (no narrative update beyond "did not replicate") if any of:

- Any of the 4 new training runs fails to converge (eval loss > 2× the seed-42 reference at the same step, or NaN/inf in loss curve).
- vLLM eval generation produces <90% non-empty completions on any cell — indicates a vLLM/tokenizer regression rather than a model behavior.
- The seed-42 adapters cannot be re-downloaded from HF Hub (would mean the comparison is invalid — only have new-seed data).
- Pooled FR→FR same-language control (already trained in #190, included as a sanity baseline) deviates by >10pp from #190's reported value on its own self-directive cell — indicates a re-evaluation drift, not a real direction-asymmetry signal.

Soft-stop, not har…

The plan is complete and approved — all 11 sections are present and the `runpod-spec` block is correctly embedded. The actual failure is **external infrastructure**: pod `hx5qglq11gau0i` was dispatched, ran RUNNING for 18 minutes, then disappeared from RunPod's API (likely external termination, capacity reclaim, or billing-side action). The runner's retry loop is polling a dead pod ID, not redispatching.

I'll faithfully re-emit the approved plan with the `runpod-spec` block so a fresh dispatch can pick up a new pod ID, and record the pod-loss pattern in the critique notes for human visibility. I am not making substantive changes to the previously approved plan body.

## Goal

Test whether the FR↔IT bystander-spill rate is direction-symmetric — i.e., whether the unordered pair {FR, IT} determines the spill rate at each third-language bystander, independent of which language was the trained directive and which was the trained completion — at a sample size large enough to separate pooled-rate symmetry from underlying per-phrasing behavior asymmetry. Anchored on the [#239](https://github.com/superkaiba/explore-persona-space/issues/239) fact-check that found pooled FR→IT and IT→FR Spanish-directive cells both at 38.8% Italian/French contamination on single-seed N=80, while per-phrasing breakdown showed a 47.5pp vs 12.5pp spread — pooled match, asymmetric underneath.

## Hypothesis

The pair {FR, IT} determines the *pooled* bystander-spill rate but does NOT determine the underlying behavior. Specifically:

1. **Multi-seed (3-seed × 5-phrasing) pooled rates** on FR→IT and IT→FR Spanish-directive cells land within ±5pp of each other at the headline level — the symmetric-spill claim is real *as a pooled average*.
2. **Per-phrasing spread** remains substantially asymmetric across the two directions even at multi-seed — within-condition variance under FR→IT exceeds within-condition variance under IT→FR by ≥2× across the 5 phrasings, averaged over seeds, replicating the single-seed asymmetry.
3. **Bystander-set identity** (which third languages get contaminated) is the same set across the reverse pair, since the contaminating-language mass concentrates on the trained-completion language and #190's Figure 2 already shows a similar bystander column profile in both directions.

A "true" geometric symmetry would require all three to hold. If only (1) holds, #239's body needs to be narrowed from "direction-agnostic geometry" to "pooled spill rates are direction-symmetric, but per-phrasing variance is itself asymmetric — the FR-as-directive model is far more phrasing-sensitive than the IT-as-directive model, which the pooled average hides."

## Prediction

- (1) **PASS:** pooled FR→IT vs IT→FR Spanish-directive contamination rates within ±5pp at 3-seed × 5-phrasing × 40-completion (N=600 per pooled cell). Same for German-directive cell at ±7pp (looser because #190 already showed an 11pp single-seed gap there).
- (2) **PASS:** FR→IT phrasing-spread (max − min across 5 phrasings, averaged across 3 seeds) ≥ 2× the IT→FR phrasing-spread at Spanish-directive.
- (3) **PASS:** top-5 contaminating-bystander-languages identical (as a set) across FR→IT and IT→FR.

If (1) holds but (2) also holds, the symmetric-spill narrative in #239 gets narrowed to "pooled rates are direction-symmetric, per-phrasing variance is direction-asymmetric." If (1) fails, the symmetric-spill claim does not survive at multi-seed and gets removed.

## Kill Criterion

Stop and treat as not-replicated (no narrative update beyond "did not replicate") if any of:

- Any of the 4 new training runs fails to converge (eval loss > 2× the seed-42 reference at the same step, or NaN/inf in loss curve).
- vLLM eval generation produces <90% non-empty completions on any cell — indicates a vLLM/tokenizer regression rather than a model behavior.
- The seed-42 adapters cannot be re-downloaded from HF Hub (would mean the comparison is invalid — only have new-seed data).
- Pooled FR→FR same-langua…

success

experiment.auto_approve_plan=true — skipping owner gate

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